tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post5125704966944033106..comments2008-06-07T19:03:06.586-04:00Comments on Seduction Central: Do you love your man for his Venus?Jeffrey Kishnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00053072876900177367noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-76541888992325437852008-06-07T19:03:00.000-04:002008-06-07T19:03:00.000-04:00@bluegrass, He'd experience a conflict between his...@bluegrass, He'd experience a conflict between his self-identity as a somewhat conservative, nurturing, sensitive guy AND being emotionally brash and impulsive. He may well be attracted to Aries-type women.Jeffrey Kishnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00053072876900177367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-81771511371649716572008-06-07T13:04:00.000-04:002008-06-07T13:04:00.000-04:00What if the man has Moon in Aries? Lets say he's a...What if the man has Moon in Aries? Lets say he's a sensitive cancer but has a moon in Aries. Would he just be sensitive, and aim for a very dominant woman?Bluegrasshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14644282105115289580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-56323403019731537592008-01-06T10:00:00.000-05:002008-01-06T10:00:00.000-05:00mwah, mwah, ciao bella mia!!=)im glad the terrier ...mwah, mwah, ciao bella mia!!<BR/><BR/>=)<BR/><BR/>im glad the terrier resonates, i dont want to sound like a breedist - of course there are lovely terriers lol, but we know how some can be..the "killer" type.bishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00686575419816771139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-2221644616991172112008-01-06T08:47:00.000-05:002008-01-06T08:47:00.000-05:00I love you Bis! Brilliant! In that very unique an...I love you Bis! Brilliant! In that very unique and entertaining "bis" way ;) <BR/><BR/>I adore the crazed terrier metaphor. LOL. My neighbor had one once. Very annoying.Victorianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-8357239947671673832008-01-06T08:22:00.000-05:002008-01-06T08:22:00.000-05:00yup i agree suits are fab. by far my fave outfit f...yup i agree suits are fab. by far my fave outfit for a man. of course, a guy can work it with an edge think a la david beckham the venusian bend it like this, Taurus extraordinaire. he has metro a bit in the past but i dont think most people question if he is masculine, like a true child of venus, madame, he can have it all.bishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00686575419816771139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-89351751099162160202008-01-06T08:15:00.000-05:002008-01-06T08:15:00.000-05:00canta man be very venus if not super venus w/out b...canta man be very venus if not super venus w/out being femmey. maybe it could make a guy 'feminine' or maybe it could just make him more the attractive, self confident, impassive type of guy rather than super aggro. <BR/><BR/>to be honest being overly mars for either sex always strikes me as hyperviligant as if the person lacks true confidence and self assurety so they go at life like a crazed terrier rather than having the cool poise or easy athleticism of a hound or sporting breed.<BR/><BR/>that is the extreme case. there is a large spectrum in between where men like women can fall w/respect to venus-mars that isnt too too one or the other and that is variety gracas à deus.bishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00686575419816771139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-41895466481000108142008-01-06T01:59:00.000-05:002008-01-06T01:59:00.000-05:00Any man looks good in a suit. An Armani suit. I ...Any man looks good in a suit. An Armani suit. I don't care how much Venus he has going on, or Mars for that matter. Or how big his equipment is. Just give me a man in a suit with a clean haircut and some hair on his chest. <BR/><BR/>Appearance counts, image is everything, and the other stuff is what keeps you together. You have to get together first. And for that, he needs a suit.Victoriahttp://seductioncentral.ning.com/profile/Victoria?viewAsOther=1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-29987978413629856552008-01-06T00:21:00.000-05:002008-01-06T00:21:00.000-05:00Ayla..I saw you comment--good for you!U would have...Ayla..I saw you comment--good for you!U would have loved my exhusband.He worked in the fashion industry.<BR/>proserpineKarenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17635098996636723872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-77826189677644476602008-01-06T00:18:00.000-05:002008-01-06T00:18:00.000-05:00I like sensitive men, actually.Yes, I do like a ma...I like sensitive men, actually.Yes, I do like a man to want to protect me, I admit.But I will prtoect him too.I don't mind crying if he's not a whiner.<BR/>I do think we've moved back (retrograded back?, ;-)) to the 50s when you hear stuff like "going to second base", or the word "sex" menaing only intercourse!If that isn't rigid and 50s what is?<BR/>Nothing wrong wiht a guy that can cry sometimes.<BR/>Sometimes the older we get we can handle other's "stuff" more--when I was younger I was afraid of someone else' even appearing needy, because of my own.In other words it was more of a projection.Karenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17635098996636723872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-61209983919650398762008-01-05T20:51:00.000-05:002008-01-05T20:51:00.000-05:00I am completely for fairness! I think men should b...I am completely for fairness! I think men should be allowed to be WHO THEY ARE regardless of what is "feminine" or not.<BR/><BR/>My DREAM guy is one I would describe by his appearance, then you can maybe imagine his insides:<BR/><BR/>Wearing a pink shirt, a kilt, barefoot, with a mohawk, dark eyes, tall.<BR/><BR/>There he is. The pink shirt cause he's sensitive, and with the kilt because he knows he's a man no matter what he wears! The barefeet are cause he doesn't really give a damn and he's Nature in the flesh. The mohawk because if you tell him to conform, he will just tell you to piss off. (one of those shaggy mohawks, those are hot)<BR/><BR/>I love a man who can cry. I think this "no cry" s**t is not only American, buy we got it from the British...though the Germans are up to it also.<BR/><BR/>The Italians, Turks, Greeks, and probably French too, have a completely diff. outlook on this crying business.<BR/><BR/>I will facilitate and encourage ANY kind of expression MY MAN wants to put out. ANYTHING. I even told my ex-hubby once that if he ever found out he was bisexual or something, to let me know and I would be cool with it....even consider arrangements for him to fulfill needs I couldn't quench. Imagine how I confused this straight Capricorn, hhahaha!<BR/><BR/>But, in conclusion, YOU EVIL WOMEN! IF YOU WON'T LET HIM JUST BE HIMSELF, THEN GET IN THE KITCHEN BAREFOOT AND MAKE THOSE BABIES! NOW! NO JOB FOR YOU! IN FACT, QUIT VOTING TOO! GRRRR!Sagilarioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15469878550662143348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-44935148515949464832008-01-04T17:38:00.000-05:002008-01-04T17:38:00.000-05:00Anon with the 3 year smouldering relationship a fe...Anon with the 3 year smouldering relationship a few comments up. I feel a bit like the old lady in "When Harry Met Sally" wanting to order one of what you are having!! What more can a gal want?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-26212505171884299362008-01-04T01:23:00.000-05:002008-01-04T01:23:00.000-05:00to the valkyri lady thats good real good stuff and...to the valkyri lady <BR/><BR/>thats good real good stuff and real nice to hear cause its true thats for sure i wish i had a man like that<BR/><BR/>is that your man there singin that cool song about his boys wontever be the same again since you met his girlfriend<BR/><BR/>you sound like a culturetype woman with good brains please write morebadnoozbettynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-57116790581467542162008-01-04T01:16:00.000-05:002008-01-04T01:16:00.000-05:00I happen to be one of these women that falls into ...I happen to be one of these women that falls into the double standard. My boyfriend of three years of whom we have INSANE chemisty...like off the charts, has Venus in Leo and Mars in Aries and Moon in Taurus. His raw sexuality of which he can be totally unaware of is breathtaking. His body is built like a boxer. And he is a Gemini Sun too born the same day as Prince and holds with him that same raw sensuality that Prince has. Women flock to him. He is sweet and loving. He is gentle and listens to me. No, he doesn't cry easily and he's not all that romantic with flowers etc. But his black hair, full lips and big sensitive eyes plus his tattoos and earings, and his mysterious appeal is addictive, sexy and yes... somewhat feminine -He is a Venus man all the way. Yet he can be reserved beyond belief making him that much more mysterious. ANyway, my point... he is sensitive and soft, yet burly and strong. THat Gemini duality. And sometimes as much as I am drawn to it I fear his softer side thinking he might be bisexual. He laughs when I've mentioned this to him. He doesn't get mad though. He is that strong in his sense of self. And I know I am just falling prey to society and history not the reality of who he is. I think men who are in touch with their Venus side make the best lovers, fathers and friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-1536158096499807462008-01-03T18:02:00.000-05:002008-01-03T18:02:00.000-05:00As I said in the post regarding my own Mars, I lik...As I said in the post regarding my own Mars, I like a guy that can like me for being a tomboy. <BR/><BR/>What I ended up with is a guy with Cancer Sun/Mars/Venus conjunct. And, thank the powers of the Universe, Moon in Sagittarius. He is a loving, mothering, caring - though not mushy and definitely not feminine type of guy. Whether he's denying his Venus, or embracing his sports and adventure-loving Moon, I don't know, but I do like the result. <BR/><BR/>Let me just note that I grew up without a mother (mine died when I was 9) so it's hard for me to connect mothering to feminine, but his type of mothering doesn't come across as that at all. He cares and nurtures, but that's him, not something I associate with a female trait.<BR/><BR/>As much as I am a tomboy and enjoy sparring, and typically male things, I don't like a guy who is too macho. I'd prefer they meet me in the middle, be as feminine as I am masculine without sacrificing our common ground. That way, we have balance.valkyrinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-88834857219178835172008-01-03T17:24:00.000-05:002008-01-03T17:24:00.000-05:00I must say this comments thread has made me laugh ...I must say this comments thread has made me laugh ALOTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-56505736875250259382008-01-03T13:19:00.000-05:002008-01-03T13:19:00.000-05:00ducks? nuh uhpenguins and roosters and all those ...ducks? nuh uh<BR/><BR/>penguins and roosters and all those foul(fowl?) feather friends not my cup of tea no way<BR/><BR/>chicken*hits are the worst<BR/><BR/>oh yeah and stool pigeons are really gross when they *hit splat your windshield<BR/><BR/>gimme a real man who cries in the closet and brings home the baconbadnoozbettynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-54065610121212097762008-01-03T13:12:00.000-05:002008-01-03T13:12:00.000-05:00I grew up with three brothers-- Two Tauruses and a...I grew up with three brothers-- Two Tauruses and a romantic adored by all lady's man--a Libra with Scorpio. My father is a Pisces. I am a gem sun sag rising with an Aries Mars and Moon. Guess what? I am weak for the sweet, intelligent shy sometimes nerdy guy. I abhor sex/romance with fire sign men. I don't like indelicate or aggressive consummation unless I know and trust you with the deepest faith.<BR/><BR/> My first love was a triple Aqua, my spouse of 17 years a gemini with an difficult Leo stellium. My true love is a Pisces Sun/Mercury with Libra Moon and Aqua Mars/Venus.<BR/><BR/>My deal? I have a Taurus Venus. I have a crazy sexual appetite (Aries Mars and Moon trine Uranus 8th house) but am extremely feminine and rarely more than assertive in love matters. Hard to believe with the Mars Aries markers.<BR/><BR/>I instinctively trust sweet kind men, soft quiet men who long for love. I like to feel protected. Cryng? Ny husband and I cry at the same movies. I like that. The man I love most--the Pisces is also Cancer rising and we spend muchof out time sharing storeis about cooking.Annalisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-7501197479970954152008-01-03T10:41:00.000-05:002008-01-03T10:41:00.000-05:00I'm with Angelineelise where I do tend to play the...I'm with Angelineelise where I do tend to play the manly role, shower my love with gifts. I've been told by all my guy friends I'm "one of the boys". They even do the whole "boy" handshake with me. I like to be dominated, but at the same time, I have a power struggle with ones that are controlling. Yet I like that control, makes me kind of feel wanted? WTF is wrong with me? <BR/><BR/>I want him to show emotion cuz of course I need that damn security being a Cap. Yet, at the same time, if he cries over us, at least early on in the relationship, and IIIII'm the one leaving him, wow...talk about making me walk away even faster.<BR/><BR/>Give me deep passionate love, love me to death. Just don't cry about it...sorry.Confused Capricornhttp://seductioncentral.ning.com/profile/Natalienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-50907249137987385492008-01-03T10:40:00.000-05:002008-01-03T10:40:00.000-05:00I'm with Angelineelise where I do tend to play the...I'm with Angelineelise where I do tend to play the manly role, shower my love with gifts. I've been told by all my guy friends I'm "one of the boys". They even do the whole "boy" handshake with me. I like to be dominated, but at the same time, I have a power struggle with ones that are controlling. Yet I like that control, makes me kind of feel wanted? WTF is wrong with me? <BR/><BR/>I want him to show emotion cuz of course I need that damn security being a Cap. Yet, at the same time, if he cries over us, at least early on in the relationship, and IIIII'm the one leaving him, wow...talk about making me walk away even faster.<BR/><BR/>Give me deep passionate love, love me to death. Just don't cry about it...sorry.Anonymoushttp://seductioncentral.ning.com/profile/Natalienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-88126302848237353122008-01-03T10:08:00.000-05:002008-01-03T10:08:00.000-05:00This is a perplexing question because I have looke...This is a perplexing question because I have looked at my past with this a lot (the "philosophical" Sag in me). I have noticed that I definitely get really close and bonded with a venus/talking/communicating type of guy, and then end up with a mars/masculine type somehow instead EVERY TIME. <BR/><BR/>Maybe its that I am a fire sign and the masculine type of guy (cave man) moves that fire in me more. It is not always worth it though. The water in me (scorpio) ends up feeling soooo neglected (like right now, for example!!).<BR/><BR/>When I was married, the guy I was with for 11 years was such a macho (another Sag like me) that he swore he would never even get sick (and he pretty much didn't!!) and he acted like he could do everything and he pretty much did!! He took care of me and my 2 children like anyone would dream in the sense that I got to be an at home mother for 9 years, something many people (if they want it) don't get these days (I did work part time the last few years) and he made sure that he ALWAYS was the MAN in that we always had our needs met(basic, we weren't rich or anything but...) he would work all day and then come home and still help out, give me "down" time etc.. cook often, etc... get up early and scrape off my car for me before leaving at 6 a.m., and then coming home at 6 p.m....). So, if I have to pick between this kind of manly man and someone who can "communicate" - its a tough one, really, it is nice if you don't have to choose, because communication was something that was lacking (and created the big OOPS that ended it all)but to be with someone who crys that they will get cold and sick if they go out in the snow?! Well, I never knew that I would find that so pathetic, but I do. <BR/><BR/>If a man crys about his feelings, though, that is beautiful (ie- my ex used to still have a tear coming down at a good movie - even though he really tried to always act like a complete macho).<BR/><BR/>Its probably like what anyone with a libra moon would say; it needs a balance. A guy really should be able to "suck it up" sometimes, to show that he can do what it takes to help his loved ones... and yet still have some sensitivity. If they want to be really sensitive and so forth, that is appealing and wonderful, as long as they still can do their part in the relationship, which usually consists of having to be strong at certain points (even a girl who is very venusy and sensitive has to show strengths (her mars) too at certain times - even if its "strength" is something as simple as being strong enough to blow off any other cave men around and hold her delicate heart for her one and only dear one.BalancedSagnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-40451318933702759492008-01-03T02:20:00.000-05:002008-01-03T02:20:00.000-05:00I've done the gambit, been with aries' caveman (en...I've done the gambit, been with aries' caveman (enjoyed it for what it was..)to men who tend to get emotional when things get to them (pisces,scorpio). I have to say that I enjoy men who are expressive...in which ever way they choose to be. Unfortunately I sometimes don't have the emotional depth my husband does (moon and venus in Aqu. I get all analytical) but I have to understand this is the way he FEELS and I cannot pick away at that. I tear apart his logic, his arguement to me, but I cannot tear apart his feelings-something he risks humiliation by showing. I must say I respond to a man being "venusian" with his emotions rather than throwing things, screaming, or picking more fights with me(those fire signs will remain nameless!). I think we live in a mans world in general but it doesn't mean that I have to make MY world a man's world. Trust me, I've had to support men,I got sick of it, but it didn't make me feel any worse than depending on a man. I like to shower men with gifts, and I tend to normally take the dominant role of the relationship...I think it takes a stronger man in society to accept what a woman has to offer than the opposite, especially when it's physical (clothes, jewelry)! But every relationship has a balance...even behind closed doors...a giver and a reciever...feminine and masculine..sometimes at the same time! God bless anyone challenging gender roles! Great Post!!!angelineelisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-80907636570255449092008-01-03T01:43:00.000-05:002008-01-03T01:43:00.000-05:00Can't say I care much for peacocks of the male var...Can't say I care much for peacocks of the male variety, but cocky roosters can be worse<BR/><BR/>cock-a-doodle-dooooooooo!!!<BR/><BR/>at 5 am in the freaking morning (please let me sleep already)victoriahttp://seductioncentral.ning.com/profile/Victoria?viewAsOther=1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-62679537224855153102008-01-03T00:35:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:35:00.000-05:00"As long as he's not wearing a dress and wears Cal..."As long as he's not wearing a dress and wears Calvin Klein and not Chantilly I'm cool. Oh yeah, makeup is a deal-breaker too."<BR/><BR/><BR/>If a man plays dress up, that's HILARIOUS (my aquarius moon). Shows he likes to have humor. But if he's MY man, I'd be more afraid of what the SOCIETY has to say... (south node in Libra?)<BR/><BR/><BR/>I mean, shucks, I usually pick the feminine artistic guy. NEVER been with the alpha male. Never ever. All that I'd dated were very neptune-y. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Should I go date some Mars-archtype now? Maybe I should. Maybe I should be man-handled.Maynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-32798088485891095172008-01-02T21:39:00.000-05:002008-01-02T21:39:00.000-05:00Victoria, my Scorp does all of the above you liste...Victoria, my Scorp does all of the above you listed...except he wears uniform to work! Talk about a big YUM factor. You know, his Moons is in Libra and Venus in Capricorn so I would like to know WHERE the sensativity is because he doesn't have a bone of it in his body!Confused Capricornnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37240917.post-38161291395847157372008-01-02T21:23:00.000-05:002008-01-02T21:23:00.000-05:00HEY ANONYMOUS DO YOU YELL THAT LOUD ALL THE TIME?!...HEY ANONYMOUS DO YOU YELL THAT LOUD ALL THE TIME?!?BADNOOZBETTYnoreply@blogger.com