Comments on Seduction Central: Why does a Capricorn fall out of love?

Also could anyone (especially caps more over cap m...

2008-07-20T01:39:00.000-04:00

Also could anyone (especially caps more over cap males) tell me how to make caps commit sooner..? Please!!so I told him that I love him so much but since he doesnt I am going to leave. (I know he is considering me but does not say I love you because he needs to be more than sure) Then he never responded although he always does. So after several weeks I sent him a light "how are you" mail and of course he responded. The thing that bothers me the most is.. he says something like its over but he comes back. I cant wait any longer. Life is short. I have a feeling if I TRUELLY from the bottom of my heart decide to leave him for good and move on and even if by any chance he would contact I would not respond, then he would finally commit to me. but as long as even a slight of myself would be acting, then he would never commit. I hate being tested but it has a reason. I would not want to commit unless if its not true either although its easy. but the best comes out of hard work. so.. Ill just wait for the day until I myself could feel sure about being with him forever and ever.

saturn's little plutonian-Could you please tell me...

2008-07-20T00:00:00.000-04:00

saturn's little plutonian-
Could you please tell me how I could know if he has deemed me as an unsuitable longterm mate or not?
The thing about caps and especially my cap, they are extremely slow. I can't recall him saying clearly that I am not an unsuitable mate. However he does not say that we are together. But I could tell from the questions he asks he is trying to figure out if I do love him truelly and if I am alright to have a long committed relationship with me. I respect that. Being carefully and living seriously is what I admire of him. But I'm already in my 30s. I can't go on like this for a long time...but I guess he wants to know if I just want to get married or if I want to get married with him. hmm..

Also the 2. You have hurt us.- How could I tell? And from what kinds of things do they get hurt?
We broke up once and got back together. I usually never get back together with a guy but I did love him so I started again but I am a gemini, another part of me has forgotten him because I was hurt the last time and it was over with him. Although in my right mind I want to continue, unconsciously the other part of me might have shown some attitude showing him that I do not love him. I do not know if that might have hurtten him but seems after that he was seeing other woman.

What kinds of things make a fall out of love? Caps seems to hold on to longer than others so what is the limit? My cap seems to always put our relationship right at the tip of the cliff him holding my hand. He would not let go but he would not bring me on top of the cliff. He is testing and checking and if I pass someday I would be on that cliff where there would be a plan to get married and have a stable wonderful family. Sometimes I think its better off to be with someone else. And sometimes I feel like I am just dreaming on my own.

A Cap falling out of love is simple; if you hurt t...

2008-07-18T15:31:00.000-04:00

A Cap falling out of love is simple; if you hurt them, and I mean really hurt them, they can't look at you the same. That ideal love we envision is erased by just a few actions. I am a Cappy and I've had this happen one too many times. All for good reasons nonetheless, and I'm glad they happened.

But once you hear of double crossing, issues with honesty and especially loyalty, you can bet that your Cap will want to be as far away from you as possible. After a while it won't hurt anymore but we will hold the grudge, subtly or not so subtly!

I am a Capricorn Woman with my Venus in Scorpio wh...

2008-07-15T13:29:00.000-04:00

I am a Capricorn Woman with my Venus in Scorpio which would make me more emotionally volatile in my romantic relationships. So I can't speak for all Cappy's because I probably don't come off as cold as some others. But speaking from experience, one of two things can make it appear as if we have fallen out of love. 1. You have been deemed an unsuitable long term mate. What's suitable varies per person. or 2. You have hurt us. This is the one that I have personally experienced. I can question someones "suitability" yet still overlook this because of the gut reaction and feeling of fatedness I have with the individual. But cross me just once with ANY degree of disloyalty and not only am I SOOOO out of love, but I also hate your guts for a week. Then I forget what all the fuss and turmoil was about because I am too busy screwing my new boyfriend (or girlfriend) witin a week. This new relationship lasts years...until...you guessed it..they cross me. Darn that Venus in Scorpio...Sagittarius Moon Conjunction....Drats..

I had or have a relationship(although my partner d...

2008-06-29T01:30:00.000-04:00

I had or have a relationship(although my partner does not say so) with a sun and venus cap & taurus moon I'm a Gem with moon scorp and venus taurus.
I read quite a lot of comments here. Seems many ppl comment on caps perhaps because cap men are always busy with business and its hard to know how they feel, their partners have lots of time to research and feel the need to.
Anyways, as I read I started to understand the caps and realized that my predictions were right about them. One is my father has a cancer in all sun moon and venus. Similar character as my partner. My father was a business mind person but fought a lot with my mother and was physically abusive with us. My parents seperated eventually though. All my life I dated ppl who are different but like me, meaning expressive active smiles a lot not so much into social status. And then I met this very cap guy. He did not seem so at first. He seemed like a funny guy with a youthful mind. (do caps act as a different person? maybe) But found that he is SO hmm how can I put it.. traditional concervitive minded? I feel like I'm in a movie based on the 1800s when ppl traveled in carriages instead of automobiles.. Even my friends cannot believe when I tell stories about him. They say "u must be kiddin its 21st century now".. But all of this is refreshing for me as all of my ex would told me I love you and treated me as a girlfriend would be treated within 2 weeks after we met. He is SOO insecure with full of fear and extremely slow. But from my rising and moon being scorpio I am pretty good at guessing what kind of person they are and I am kind of insecure and careful as well so I don't mind too much but I'm a gemini after all. I want a long term relationship as I have reached the age where ppl ask me if I got married yet. So I do consider him as a partner that I would like to marry for security is the highest priority for me. But I know it's not going to be a happy one all the time. As I read some comments, I predict that my cap will become abusive and hurtful. I cannot take any physical abuse again but if he is more decent then I think I could be with him. The thing is I will not be able to be a serious person because it really is not in my nature. I already told him that. And I wished he was more fun and not too serious but I think we could be a great team if we understood that since we are so different and we accepted that it would work fine. I am just worried that he or I will not fall out of love at some point not being able to stand the difference anymore. When he is in his fear rejecting me and in his own rethinking about what I did and analyzing me, I do the same but sometimes my gemini kicks in and go out and get some air and chat up with my friends. Then we meet again and then he we are ok but sometimes my mind will be on something else which is very Gemini and when he notices this slight attitude of me not paying full attention to him he gets kind of angry. And all this time he told me many times that we are not in a relationship. But after hearing this so much it seems that he is saying that to himself actually but I will never tell him that because he will get even more angry. I want a real relationship as many caps do but I cannot show that attitude 24/7. I hope he could trust me more. I just love him so much but because he says stuff like this is not a relationship I believe it sometimes and then become aloof to him. But I feel like he is holding on to me so hard .. I just want to yell .. please stop being so fear ful and start trusting me because I am true to him. but when I express it he sees it as moving too fast and then scares away again.. ugh ugh ugh... please some advice from cappies.. oh so the last move I made was telling him that I love him so much but since he does not then I am going to move on...

Oh brother, they are high and mighty. While all th...

2008-06-23T12:45:00.000-04:00

Oh brother, they are high and mighty. While all this 'considering' and 'planning' the possibilities are going on with the capricorn, other people should also remember to do the same thing and move on with their lives. This person could weigh you out for a year or two and then decide no. You have to weigh the odds. I guess as the odds get closer to you losing a year or two of your life for not measuring up then the idea is to try harder to measure up, thats how they get control of you. I hate the feeling of not measuring up. I was fine before I met the person, suddenly I dont measure up. Well the future might hold a secure relationship so I guess its worth it, on the other hand the future might hold an extremely unfaithful future with someone who fools around on you as a punishment for not keeping things hopping all the time in the bedroom or whatever else they might need. I dont see what the big deal is in what they ahve to 'offer'. Their real offer is to their job. They are people who are totaly committed to their job. You MIGHT be able to be part of that and hang off the sidelines if you put in enough effort. I think the best approach with them is to not give a 'crap' about them from the get go and ever let them think they have any control over you and then do whatever the hell you want including going out what other people and everything else. If you want to live with them and their job then I guess it should have some financial add as an investment, maybe thats a motive cause I dont see them providing much else of anythign without a LOT of hoops to jump through.

im a cap and was with a sag..who was very flirtati...

2008-05-24T23:48:00.000-04:00

im a cap and was with a sag..who was very flirtatious and would always stretch the truth..i think i could never fall out of love i am very forgiving but there comes a point when you need to get serious and look at your priorities in a relationship..probably the main thing for me to fall out of love would be playing games and lies

lol im not a very serious person but woah my inner capricorn just came out

im aries ascendant gemini moon in gemini venus acq...

2008-04-08T04:09:00.000-04:00

im aries ascendant gemini moon in gemini venus acquarius. some friends present me a capricorn man who was immediatly in admiration , asked for my fone number and invite me to dinner for the next week end. we spoke a lot and he said that this year he feels some fun in his life and he's dating some different women as he was serious in the last 10 years . i explain that im not intereste to pure physical relation and as i brokup recently with a long term relation myself , i look for friendship actually till i will be ready foor something else. i saw that he likes everything in me but that didn't avoid him to admire every beauty who paseed in the restaurant.
for on week i did hear anything . in the week end he calls twice,i missed the calls, so he message me : did you forget me? i want to see you this weekend. i want to direct him on something deeper than a physical desire, i like his personality but i dont know how to deal . i know our signs are incompatibles so any cappys can help?

I'm a Capricorn woman & quite honestly I'm tired o...

2008-03-01T21:24:00.000-05:00

I'm a Capricorn woman & quite honestly I'm tired of all this bad rep my sign gets about being all business and cold/calculating etc. I think we are far more sensitive and caring than most people suspect, although it may not always show on surface right away. Those who are patient and show genuine interest in getting to know us, will find us to be very loyal, & loving. We don't wear our feelings on our sleeves, but that does not mean that we don't have any. So my point is that a Capricorn falls out of love for the same reason that any other human being is likely to fall out of love i.e. lack respect, lack of love, under appreciation, being taken for granted, abused, taken advantage of, cheating, lack of trust etc.

Cappy Lady, I swear you could be my Ex, lol. I st...

2008-03-01T21:10:00.000-05:00

Cappy Lady, I swear you could be my Ex, lol. I still don't know the real reason she ended things, but I know she's ended previous relationships at the drop of a hat...usually as a result of something said that was improper...and with her its one storke and your out. she gave her reasons, but none made real sense, at least when taken in the contect of our "in-love" relationship. Guess my lesson learned is to really, REALLY, analyze what cappy's are saying and take it to heart...sad though, I really wished you cappy's would give us at least a second chance :(

To the person above, you summed it up nicely. I ag...

2008-02-12T20:08:00.000-05:00

To the person above, you summed it up nicely. I agree 100% I often tell those that I am in a relationship with that I don't like my time to be wasted. People may find us difficult, but all its takes is observation of our behavior, patience, and respect.

Why does a Cap fall out of love;-- we gave you doz...

2008-01-29T22:12:00.000-05:00

Why does a Cap fall out of love;

-- we gave you dozens of chances to live up to your words, but you fail us time and time again. Once we are no longer able to believe the words coming out of your mouth, it is over.

-- you talk a good game, but we see no action. If you cannot back up your words, then shut up. We do not respect talkers unless they back up the talk with action. Remember, Capricorns value concrete things not vague chatter about dreams and ideas (which are good, but not if they never take form)

-- you cheat. Most caps are too busy to stalk or otherwise track you down, check your cell phone or your e-mail, question you about lunch with so and so or why you work so late (because we are always working ourselves). But the day we find out that you have cheated, more likely than not, that is the day that the relationship ended (even if it lingers on for a few more months, our feelings will probably have died on the date of discovery of said affair). In order to love, we must trust and respect you. If you lie to, or cheat on us, we cannot respect or trust you. Dunzo.

-- you are lazy. Well, frankly, if you are lazy, we probably would not fall in love with you to begin with. But assume that your lazy butt got by our screening process, and we determine said laziness later, and you do nothing about it, then we cannot respect you.

-- you are too non-traditional. No matter how liberal we are politically, we still like some traditional values. We want our men to be men. Cappie women are strong but we like to be taken care of (but not bossed around). Confident, not dominant. Confident but not cocky. If you want to be a house-husband, then forgetabout it. Even if we earn 5 times more than you, you need to give us the feeling that you are contributing in a more traditional way.

-- Yes -- we do fall for the inappropriate guy sometimes and how we beat ourselves over the head about it! But generally, Caps want a guy/gal that they are proud of. This means that they will wait for years for the right person. Years, I tell you. Years. If you don't make him or her look good, then you won't be seen in public with the Cap. He/she may hang out with you privately, but you won't be taken to the work functions or the family get togethers. Sounds crappy, but it is pretty much true.

-- You work too much. They do as well, but if Cappies like you, they will make the time to spend with you. So if they are making the time when all they are worried about is what the heck is going on at work, you had better too.

-- Finally -- You don't respect TIME. Maybe its the Saturn "Father Time" bugaboo that hamstring Caps, but they are obsessed with time, the use of it, the waste of it, the passage of it, the things that can be done with it. You can make more money, but you cannot make more time. Once Time passes, it is gone. They are careful because they are hyper aware of this and don't want to enter a relationship that wastes time. If Caps sense that you are not not going in the same direction in the relationship, they will leave you eventually, even if they are in love with you. Why --- the loss of time.

Hope that this was helpful, even if a bit harsh.

Hi everyone,I'm an analytical, practical Virgo wit...

2008-01-20T03:06:00.000-05:00

Hi everyone,

I'm an analytical, practical Virgo with a very outgoing Leo personality and strong creative, imaginative tendencies. I recently started dating a Capricorn man who is 8 years older than me (very structured, very successful, very hot/cold). The age difference isn't an issue for me, but I find it difficult to read this Cappie when he is not fully relaxed. (Physical situations seem to relax him and allow him to show more of his good self, the side I want to keep seeing.)

Despite my accomplishments, ambition, and own seriousness, I'm trying to be playful with him. I'm usually really good at getting people to lighten up, but he's difficult. How can I get him to feel more secure with me, more relaxed? I'm naturally affirming, but his dry sense of humor throws me off a bit.

It's still very early, but I can't tell whether he's playing games by varying his coldness/distance (which make me feel defensive and guarded, thereby stifling my naturally warm self and causing me to turn self-critical), if he's just not interested, or if I need to be more patient.

At what point do Caps stop mixing signals and make it clear they are interested in a legitimate way? Help?

Also, how do Caps feel about women taking initiative? We both believe in hard work and making an effort.

Any advice for a Virgo woman who's beginning to date a Cap man?

Thanks!
Virgo Girl

I am a cap (with alot of sag tendencies) and I can...

2008-01-02T20:07:00.000-05:00

I am a cap (with alot of sag tendencies) and I can tell you that caps --especailly the males-- are emotionally slow moving in relationships. They tend to lack patience though, when they feel physical attraction. (Most cappie males are rather pervy when it comes to sex...lol) So, they may move to have sex with you, but then give you a bit of the cold shoulder, "we are still growing as friends" deal afterward.

Though I have read that caps have a great sense of humor, I have met VERY few who laugh at anything! The women are alot more open, but getting them to laugh will win you points because they are very critical. And for goodness sake, don't make them the object of your joke...ugh

Oh, but back to the love thing. Cap men don't stop loving, they just stop feeling secure. They will give a partner several chances to uphold to their sense of standards in a relationship, but if that partner is too bolsterous, or exhibits a little too much passion outside of the home or in public, or if they are messy, caps will RUN for the exit. They tend to be the type that is done, once they are done! If they need to see you every so often, they WILL be polite, but you will feel the cold. Caps love deeply, passionatly, but they do not want to be rushed, and they do not want to be let down. Do either of those things, and you WILL loose all your points.

@ Skynetpuma...Very true, often we are so scared t...

2007-12-23T13:54:00.000-05:00

@ Skynetpuma...

Very true, often we are so scared to achieve what we so desperately hope for because we know once we're in, we're in for a long time. And yes the fall can be soul wrenching as we can only handle so much emotional overkill, if any.

Passive aggressiveness is usually the route I, as a Cap sun, take when falling out of love, but my Aries moon makes it feel like it's always bubbling under the surface. Emotions are not easy for us to handle, especially when they turn sour. Either way, a love relationship is certainly more of a gamble than a dreamy, fantastical ride. The reality of the downfalls of falling out of love are always conscious to us.
This can make it a lot harder to enjoy it while it's happening.

@ JMR, "I will say this for me and any relationship. If I am betrayed in any, that person is surgically removed from my heart. They cease to exist for me."

I find this a pattern as well for Caps. It's the easiest way to stop the feeling and move on. Not only that but it usually works if we're looking at it on a progressive level- if there's no reason to stay, then there's no reason to acknowledge the emotions. This can create a lot of baggage but not if the Cap can handle it effectively.

So yes, exclusion.blue... it does depend on the circumstances, sometimes almost as much as the love interest themselves.

i am a capricorn , and for all the girls and else ...

2007-09-28T13:11:00.000-04:00

i am a capricorn , and for all the girls and else that try to guess why or how we fall in love , or retreat suddenly of a relationships, there is
only one word , according to me and the other capricorns that i know: fear.
we are idealistics to a extreme that we prefer to kill our dreams rather than living in dissapointment , and especially in love , we dont trust in no one, but when that special one comes , we
have the ultmost fear , because we cannot hold our feelings , and if we fail , the despair and depression that will come will be so damn strong that it can kill us , or kill one part of us.
We can love , we desperately seek for it , but we have so much fear that it will go wrong that often we
prefer to leave. For been with a cap you need patience for overcoming his or her fears , that are very real for us , most of the time more than anything.

On a Cap + Cap.Though many say it's a good match, ...

2007-09-12T22:42:00.000-04:00

On a Cap + Cap.
Though many say it's a good match, I'd say different. I'd say it's 50/50.

It could be great perfect, wonderful or down right CRAZY.

The bad notes. They both could be way to competitive with each other They will know each other well and will know how to push the others buttons. Their relationship could be cruel. Though Caps HATE games played by other signs and have low tolerance for them. These two would play games with each other just to see who comes out on top or plays them to make SURE they are the ones to come out on top. LOTS of stubbornness- unwilling to move on subjects or plans they don't agree with. This would be the bad nature of the two together.

The good notes. They would both understand each other very well. Have loads of respect for the other. Highly devoted and a very sexy (steamy) relationship (though the outside world may or may not see it. We are pretty private. IF they two have the same goals and focus (and are not stubborn with each other) and work well together (which they should most of the time) they will become a team that is unstoppable and unrivaled in anything they set their mind to.
They will be the couple you move out of the way for because it would be suicide to try and go against them.

I'd like some thoughts on a Capricorn + Capricorn ...

2007-08-23T20:37:00.000-04:00

I'd like some thoughts on a Capricorn + Capricorn relationship. Can it work?

Thank you.

"Also because it will happen because they have not...

2007-08-12T22:32:00.000-04:00

"Also because it will happen because they have not broken any of the rules we have on our list (Caps list can vary) they may have bent them- but not broken. So that's why some Caps will stay in bad relationships."

This about sums it up.

Capricorns in love and Capricorns out of love. Cap...

2007-08-12T15:41:00.000-04:00

Capricorns in love and Capricorns out of love.
Capricorns in love- yes we do size up our partners to be, making sure we are not being tricked or just a quick fling. We play it cool in the start to the middle. I remember that's what happened to me and my Cancer. I played it cool for 3 mons [I PAID A HEAVY PRICE FOR IT, I STILL PAY] because I could see they had no tact to themselves and I could watch everything go up in flames because they would tell about our private lives. That made me back down abit; slow down. They were dating someone else when we met 5 mons from 1st talking to each other. Alot of my notions were right about them and alot were wrong. They kept alot of lovers around which I hated because you could never tell who they were true to. So I waited in the back to find out my place with them. ...
But I was giving you a background to say we must have respect for you to love you, we must be able to trust you to give your our heart, and we have to be meaningful/needed by you (at least for me anyway). We don't like being another number to you.

I'm not one given to affairs- if I love you; I LOVE YOU and that's it.
I think most Caps are like that but I've met some that are not.

Capricorns out of love-
because we don't respect you anymore, to much pain and hurt, to many games and tricks, they are not stable. Trust is gone. You can be moody as ever as long as all of those are intact- we will still be in love with you.

Yes we do have a tendency to pick the bad ones, to be deluded. But I think that happens because we have to much faith in the ones we love. We think one day with will come around (due to our over abundance of patience). Also because it will happen because they have not broken any of the rules we have on our list (Caps list can vary) they may have bent them- but not broken. So that's why some Caps will stay in bad relationships.

Boy, this topic struck a chord with me LOL I apolo...

2007-08-11T17:01:00.000-04:00

Boy, this topic struck a chord with me LOL

I apologize for the typos. I promise to proof read my posts from here on out LOL

Jara, for me it's very painful when I find out a f...

2007-08-11T16:58:00.000-04:00

Jara, for me it's very painful when I find out a friend has said things behind my back. I am pretty black and white about my feelings. If you are a true friend you know me well enough to know that I will come straight to you if I have issues, and only you. I don't run it around to everyone else.

Also, in the case of my ex. He was always amazed at how I stood behind him. I never criticsized him or belittled him. I would tell him he could do whatever it was he wanted career-wise, as long as it was what he really wanted. He never gave me the same consideration. In fact, I realized over the years how many times he would say things to belittle me, it hurt and I felt betrayed by his lack of standing behind me.

I realize now much of it was born out of his lack of. I could accomplish so much more than he did. It many ways he was jealous of the successes I had acheived, though I never rubbed it in his face or belittled him. I remained optimistic.

Finally I just took one insult too many and walked away for good.

I imagine, if I were with a man and found out he had cheated on me that would be a betrayal to me as well. When I am in a relationship I am up-front and make sure they understand it is exclusive ot I walk. Truthfully, I tend to do the walking. I am sure there is a reason for it. One I have yet to let myself analyze.

So it's fair game if anyone can see why in my chart.

JMR, what does it usually take for your loyalty to...

2007-08-10T12:09:00.000-04:00

JMR, what does it usually take for your loyalty to break (if ever)?

I could give so many reasons. I believe I will wai...

2007-08-10T09:30:00.000-04:00

I could give so many reasons. I believe I will wait till Venus does her retreat. I've been feeling the tug of old ghosts and ignoring them for the most part. But this topic is on point with the thoughts I've been having.
Cappy Lady, I wonder if you're having the same feelings? You and I seem to move along the same wave.
I will say this for me and any relationship. If I am betrayed in any, that person is surgically removed from my heart. They cease to exist for me.

Otherwise, I am pretty easy to get along with. I am loyal to the point of stupidity.

God, I used to know a Leo Sun, Cancer rising, Cap ...

2007-08-08T14:23:00.000-04:00

God, I used to know a Leo Sun, Cancer rising, Cap moon woman who was even blinder than I am about men. It was something to behold. She would deny deny deny that a man was using her when it was clear to one and all that he was. I think it was the Leo Sun but I thought the Cap Moon would help ground her. She was worse than me, though (and I've got a Pisces Moon).